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boptah



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Healed Reply with quote

Although it has taken me 3 years to heal my inguinal hernia. I can confidently say that it is healed.
I had a large (pear size) right sided inguinal hernia and had trouble keeping it in ,even with the flatpad support. It was making my life hell.
Thanks to this forum and other research i refined my diet ( basically smaller meals and the elimitition of sugar and white bread from my diet and embarked on an exercise regime targeting my lower ab muscles and general lower body fitness. Squats, leg raises, sit ups, etc and increased my flexibility with stretching and bending movements.
About 6 months ago i noticed that my hernia didn't come out as much, and when it did it hurt more. then all of a sudden in the space of a week i could tell that only if i did something silly ( large wheat and sugar binge) it would come out.
Now i am making sure that my muscles are stronger than ever and feel much better with my new diet and can fully sympethise with people who are going through the 'doubting' stage of self healing a hernia.
BTW. I got through 7 flatpad supports and 2 others that were complete rubbish.

Thanks everyone, i feel human again. Bo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much for letting us know. We are delighted at your success and hope it will help to inspire others.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:11 am    Post subject: what was size of your Hernia? Reply with quote

How was your Hernia diagnosed?Did your doctor ask you to confirm presence and size of Hernia?If yes size?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poster has indicated that it was a pear-size hernia.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: it is vague Reply with quote

When one mentions"pear size",it is very vague statement.When a surgeon

refers the patient to Radiologist,he states the size of "defect" in millimeters in

his report.This is global practice.I fail to understand why no one has stated

the size of Hernia in this way on this forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clarify my post.. I do not have a doctor. Nor do i have much faith in the medical system itself. Except for Accident and emergency first aid.
My friend had a right sided inguinal hernia and had surgery, It then developed into a left sided inguinal hernia which was treated in the same way. He is not 100% today, frequently has mild pain and reduced strength.
My hernia was approx 80mm x 60mm when fully 'out'. It emerged from a hole approx 30mm in diameter.
On 2 occasions i had difficulty in pushing the hernia back and had to lay on the floor and massage it back while i relaxed. I could see how a hernia can be 'strangulated'.
I have had no problems for about 7 months now . But i know that i need to keep the exercise regime going and the diet is constantly being refined ( quite difficult)
I have no problems lifting and moving heavy weights ( i am a farmer) and i incorporate stretching movements as i am working.
It might seem a funny thing to say. but a hernia is a great tool for making lifestyle changes. And gives you insights into your everyday behaviour that needed to change but you were probably not aware of.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boptah; I'm glad you believe you have healed your hernia w/o surgery, however, I'm skeptical, I'm in terrific shape am a national class athlete in my age-group for many years, I tried everything to self heal my hernia, it did not work. You can do sit ups, and all kinds of ab work to strengthen the ab muscles until the cows come home, it will not do anything but strengthen the muscles, not heal the hernia. Hernias are NOT a problem of muscle strength or lack of, it is a problem of fascia, the fascia weakens, a hole develops and intestine or fat breaks through creating a bulge. The only way to really fix it is surgery. I'm sorry your friend had a problem with surgery, most times it's surgical error not mesh. I just had my hernia repaired and it was a great decision, I'll be running again soon. My advice and you don't have to take it is; find a surgeon who has a good track record with hernia repair, ask him questions, hernias don't get better boptah, they get worse and you don't want a hernia to become incarcerated, please think about what I posted.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have mistaken my position. I do not believe i have healed my hernia. I know i have.
The mistake you have made is not giving the fascia time to heal as the muscles are strengthing. This can only be done with the correct diet. If your hernia is coming out every day then you need dietry discipline otherwise the fascia will not repair itself. ( bloating is the problem ).
You failed to mention in your post the progress you had made with regards to diet. Ie. Have you eliminated all refined sugar, flour and other candida enhancing foods. This is a requirement for you to strengthen the entire area.
If you have difficulty in understanding the extent to which a body can heal itself, i suggest you look at real life physiotherapy stories and combine that knowledge with the field of bodybuilding to show what gains can be had in strength.
I know full well what the 'doubting' stage of the 'self heal' hernia system is like.I experienced it myself. It seemed so real. But that is when you need the discipline to carry on with the diet and continue with the exercises
I could tell as i was progressing ( the hernia was not coming out everyday) that if i could do 3 sets of 50 sit-ups. .My hernia would not come out anymore and i would be well on the way to a cure.Combined with the other exercises and diet control.
The facia strengthens along with the rest of the surrounding muscles and you can actually feel the hole getting smaller (with your fingers) over the days and weeks.
I would urge people to 'work through' the doubting stage and look at areas where discipline is required ( diet). and continue. The trouble with surgery is. It is not a cure , it is merely a sticking plaster. And will probably result in problems elsewhere in that region.
As you are working on your diet it is interesting to see what emotions arise as you deny yourself all the lovely candida food. Because that is the bottom line with a hernia. You eat the wrong foods to suppress the emotions that would arise with eating a correct diet. The healing of the hernia is incidental to feeling the emotions that you have suppressed for many years. This is why i say it is a great blessing to have a hernia. Because it is a voyage of self discovery and ultimately life enhancing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishing you well mstrunn - one of the most common enquiries we get is about hernia recurrences some years after a mesh repair. Re-operating is usually not possible due to the much higher risk of complications. Hoping your repair lasts.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No reason why it shouldn't Admin; with Millikan's Modifed repair in over 16 years there has not been one problem with the mesh, Negro of Italy has done over 2000 of these, with no problem. Remember what the FDA says; the majority of problems with mesh (men) are due to recalled products being used.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not quite right there mstrunn but we wish you well anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean admin I'm not quite right? The recurrance rate with the technique I underwent is less than 1%, and if there is a problem with mesh it's either a recalled product was used or surgeon error, it boils down to the surgeon irregardless of the technique, a good surgeon can make any technique good. If one is going to have hernia repair today you are going to get mesh unless you go for DeSarda which is too new to evaluate or a tissue to tissue repair which means a lot of post op pain and a longer recovery, please don't disrespect and tell me I'm not quite right, I've spoken to some of the best surgeons in the US and abroad before I chose to undergo surgery, I tried to heal it w/o surgery, it did not work, and if anyone believes they did it they are one in a million. Buying a flat pad and pushing it in may be fine in the short run but just because the bulge is pushed in does not mean it is healed, get an x-ray, mri or CAT scan and prove it has healed. With all due respect to you and your posters, I did not come on board to debate mesh or flat pads or recurrance rates, I made a choice and am glad I did and have recovered very rapidly thanks to a great surgeon and being physically fit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with mstrunn on this one. I wasted about 3 years avoiding the inevitable operation after reading the scare mongering on this site, but it did give me the time to seek out a specialist at the British Hernia Centre who I am very happy with. I wish, however, I had the operation at least 2 years earlier as waiting that 3 years just made it a lot larger to fix.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mstrunn. 1% is not a very good recurrence rate. That means a lot of people are having problems.
Remember real people are suffering.
In your post you disclosed that you had to keep on pushing in the hernia. This means that your diet is in error. If i were you i would look at this problem in your life before it gives you problems elsewhere.
If you did not come here to debate recurrence rates, mesh or flatpads. Why are you here?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cyprusmike"]I'm with mstrunn on this one. I wasted about 3 years avoiding the inevitable operation after reading the scare mongering on this site, but it did give me the time to seek out a specialist at the British Hernia Centre who I am very happy with. I wish, however, I had the operation at least 2 years earlier as waiting that 3 years just made it a lot larger to fix.[/quote]



If your hernia was getting worse. Then you were just 'waiting' for it to heal on its own without making the necessary changes to your lifestyle.
I went through that stage and it was very demoralising
In the end you have to just 'knuckle down' and do what you know is right. This involves discipline and a strict dietary regime that seems impossible at first. When the diet is reaping rewards, then the exercises can be intensified and the benefits start to materialise faster. However. When you are in the 'doubting' stage , surgery can seem like a good idea.
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